When you’re shilling for copyright, at least pick a lane. Are they bad for “pirating” or bad for not supporting “piracy”?

I guess it doesn’t matter as long as the owners collect their rent.

I’m not sure I’m following you either, it appears to me that you don’t see a difference between tax and theft.

That’s an odd thing to write. Why do you believe that?

When Meta takes from everyone it’s a bully that takes from the weak who can’t fight back. Meta does it so that they become the biggest fish in the pond as an end goal.

When a state takes from everyone and rich in particular it’s because we don’t to have this kind of big fish in the pond. We just want to chill.

Ok, I think I get this now. You believe in far-reaching intellectual property, and that property is inviolable, except to limit inequality. So, you reject US-style Fair Use which has a public benefit in mind. Instead, copying only doesn’t require permission if the rights-owner is wealthier than oneself. So, most people could freely copy Taylor Swift songs but perhaps not songs by some street musician. Does that cover it?

I’m trying to follow you. It would be ok if a soviet government did it, but if a private company does it, then it’s stealing. Because a soviet government is strong? Has control of the military and all that, unlike some start-up or even an established company?

I’m not sure what you are trying to say here. Do you think that soviet states would have negotiated with owners of private property before using it for public benefit?

Still sounds like Ayn Rand and not socialism.

I assume you probably want to know how this kind of leftism is different from others or other ideologies calling themself leftist, rather than for me to write an essay on myself.

What confuses me is that you argue that property owners should be able to demand payment for the use of their property without any further consideration. That is a very conservative capitalist stance. It’s not compatible with any flavor of socialism that I am aware of. In fact, most pro-capitalists would reject it as too far right. The only ideologue, I can think of, that holds this stance even for copyrights is Ayn Rand. Your ideas seem compatible with hers. I don’t understand why you would think of that as socialist or even left.

When you call yourself a socialist, what do you mean by that term?

No. Seriously, why do you want to call yourself a socialist?

Calling property labor, doesn’t make you a socialist.

If that’s what you want, you should join Facebook.

The fundamental thing to understand is that the internet - and really all information processing - is about copying. There is no such thing as “looking” at a profile or a post. The text and image data is downloaded to your device. You end up with multiple copies on your device.

Sending information out, but blocking people from storing it, is fundamentally a contradiction in terms.

Bsky - like Lemmy - made the choice to make the data widely available. It is available via API and does not need to be scraped. The alternative is to do it like Reddit or even Facebook or Discord. But they can’t stop scraping, either. They can make it slower and more laborious but not stop it. Services like Facebook protect the data as best as they can to “protect your privacy”. In reality, it’s about making it hard for you to leave the platform or anyone else to benefit from your data. Either way, you can trust Zuck to protect your data as if it was his own. Because it is.

A toy like that is easy to create and not that expensive to offer. Much more expensive than some JavaScript or CSS, but in the end it’s not that different.

I think people don’t really understand this whole scraping thing. For example, you can torrent all of Reddit until the API-change; all the comments, profiles, usernames, including now deleted stuff. There is a lot of outrage here over Reddit cracking down on these 3rd party tools. It’s difficult to see how that outrage over cracking down on 3rd party tools, fits with this outrage here over not cracking down on 3rd party tools.

Anyway, if someone want to archive all of Bluesky, they don’t need to offer some AI toy. They can just download the content via the API.

Not quite. You can’t turn movies into books or games, or vice versa, for example. Sometimes such projects get stuck in limbo. Or think about how everyone hated the final season of Game of Thrones. Can’t do anything about that in our life times.

EG 2 weeks ago, there was a post that had people calling for making robots.txt legally binding. Very disappointing.

No, just disappointed.

Wow. A copyright lawsuit where Lemmy isn’t rooting for the establishment. Won’t anyone think of the poor, starving artists?!