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You guys both posted it within a few seconds of each other judging by my app updating the time. Impressive.

All LLMs and Gen AI use data they don’t own. The Pile is all scraped or pirated info, which served as a starting point for most LLMs. Image gen is all scraped from the web. Speech to text and video gen mainly uses YouTube data.

So either you put a price tag on that data, which means only a handful of companies can afford to build these tools (including Meta), or you understand that piracy is the only way for most to aquire this data but since it’s highly transformative, it isn’t breaching copyrights or directly stealing from them as piracy “normally” is.

I’m being pragmatic.

The existence hinges on the rewriting and strengthening of copyright laws by data brokers and other cancerous tech companies. It’s not Meta vs us, but opensource vs Google and Openai.

They are being sued for copyright infringement when it’s clearly highly transformative. The rules are fine as is, Meta isn’t the one trying to change them. I shouldn’t go against my own interests and support frivolous lawsuits that will negatively impact me just because Meta is a boogeyman.

Don’t give me that slop. No one except the biggest names are getting a dime out it once OpenAI buys up all the data and kills off their competition. It’s also highly transformative, which used to be perfectly legal.

Copyright laws have been turned into a joke, only protecting big money and their interests.

Meta has open sourced every single one of their llms. They essentially gave birth to the whole open llm scene.

If they start losing all these lawsuits, the whole scene dies and all those nifty models and their fine-tunes get removed from huggingface, to be repackaged and sold to us with a subscription fee. All the other domestic open source players will close down.

The copyright crew aren’t the good guys here, even if it’s spearheaded by Sarah Silverman and Meta has traditionally played the part of the villain.

This is valid just on taste alone. The thing was ugly even before Elon started his descent into madness.

Huge pet peeve of mine as well. No one needs my phone number.