JackbyDev

This is why I try to find legitimate sites offering direct downloads instead of illegally uploading during torrenting. There are many sites offering direct downloads, but I often have trouble finding them.

Is there a text version of this?

Sure! Here! Electron.

Free speech!

Nobody here was arguing that they don’t.

The entire reason I even began commenting on this thread is because someone said this.

teens are not geeking around with computers, they are watching reels and scrolling recommendations and doing other bullshit

My entire argument the whole time has been that back in the day, plenty of kids weren’t doing computing related things. Plenty were doing “other bullshit” back then. My point has been the same the entire time. Just because computing as a hobby has a lower barrier to entry doesn’t mean that there are less people overall interested in learning more. You just keep repeating back to me that proportionally less people who use computers today really know them deeply. I’ve never said anything otherwise. I jist see no reason to believe that as a whole there are less people who want to know them on a deeper level.

You point out things like files being a difficult concept for younger people today because it’s been abstracted away. My response to that would be merely knowing what a file is was never what we’ve been talking about. Of millennials, what percentage knows about files and how to save them? 99% or so? Just a guess, it doesn’t really matter the exact number. Do you believe 99% of millennials are tech geniuses on the way to becoming “FOSS graybeards”? No! Of course not! Basic computer usage has always been a different skill set than what I’ve been talking about.

Unless you have some sort of data about the amount of young people going into things like computer science is substantially lower today than it was in the '80s then I see no reason to believe otherwise. We live in a golden age of cheap electronics and easily accessible information. The barrier to entry for curious people wanting to learn more about computers than having them act as basic machines that can make documents, edit pictures, and play games is arguably lower than ever.

The days of old required everyone to learn more to be able to use computers, but I don’t believe this translated to more experienced people then than today overall, especially not more people willing to contribute back to the community back then than today.

I get that, I’m not saying differently, I’m just saying that it’s not like the only reason people were learning lower level things was only to play games. Some people were just curious about it. Plenty of people are still learning those things because they’re curious. The barrier to entry being lower doesn’t mean there are less people who are curious about learning! If anything, it means that people who are curious but thought the barrier to entry was higher in the past have an easier time getting into the hobby now.

Do you think that the Arduino project has been a net negative for people curious about learning low level microcontroller stuff? It was created out of frustration by people learning it wanting it to be easier to begin to learn. https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-making-of-arduino

But plenty of people still do learn the deeper stuff. Just because you can write a game without code doesn’t mean everyone who makes games is doing it without code. Arguing otherwise just feels like bemoaning some sort of lost golden days when that’s not the case. It’s because everyone who used to be into these hobbies knew the ins and outs. Now more people are into it so proportionally less know the ins and outs, but I see no reason to believe the absolute number of people who really want to learn the deeper stuff has gone down.

I totally agree, but nobody is saying everyone that uses a computer is a tech wiz. I’m saying there are still plenty of people today interested in digging in deeper just like there were back then. Tech being more accessible today hasn’t led to a decrease in such things, because the people the ease brought in wouldn’t have dug in in the past.

I think you’re missing my point. I’m not saying everyone capable of using a computer today is equivalent to that level of dedication and curiosity. I’m just saying that in the same way only a handful of people do that today only a handful of people pursued it in the past. It’s become easier to use computers, but hat doesn’t mean there still aren’t people who learn the ins and outs of them today like people had to do in the past to use them.

I’m really confused by your reasoning here. You’re describing how it was extremely difficult to you and you had to go to great lengths to learn technology. Not everyone did this back then not does everyone do it now.

and they from teens geeking around with computers, and oops - teens are not geeking around with computers, they are watching reels and scrolling recommendations and doing other bullshit.

“Youth bad.” Lazy take. As if everyone in the gray beard generation was tinkering around with computers? Plenty of youths still tinker. Posting condescending shit like this is just going to turn them off from pursuing/contributing.

I’d rather learn from slightly unreliable teachers than teachers who belittle me for asking questions.

New copy pasta just dropped

I’ve found questions about niche tools tend to get worse answers. I was asking if some stuff about jpackage and it couldn’t give me any working suggestions or correct information. Stuff I’ve asked about Docker was much better.

I feel you, but I’ve asked it why questions too.

It’s true and it’s such a distraction. There is so much worse shit going on right now in the US government. I’m tired of not calling it a coup. It’s a coup. They’re trying to act like the judicial branch doesn’t get to determine what is and isn’t constitutional. So much shit.

As bad and as cringe as it is for the “Gulf of America” debacle to happen, it’s just genuinely not worth the headspace right now.

Pretend you blocked me. Below is sort of what it looks like in their UI. Personally I like it this way.

• Other user: Heyyy

• Other user: Good!

This is for group chats. Blocking still prevents DMs.

Still! A screen changing is still something that grabs your attention.

You’re joking, surely. While the analog stick drift is a huge problem in terms of quality, the motion controls are objectively better. Go play Mario Galaxy on the Wii and play it in 3d All Stars on Switch and tell me the Switch version isn’t better. The fact that you aren’t bound to pointing directly at the screen due to the motion bar thingy is huge. The sort of tilt assist aiming in games like BotW and TotK are worlds better than any point aiming mechanics from the Wii.

Nothing I’ve said before is about the life span of the parts. The analog sticks breaking on Joycons sucks and is awful, but don’t sit here and act like that makes the Wiimote better. Motion controls on Switch are so much better than Wii.

I’m wondering if a lot used it in minor ways so you forget easily. I remember Brawl would use it when you selected a character, but I may only be remembering because it was a meme on TikTok for a bit. I remember one microgame in Warioware using it when you answered a phone which was funny.