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  • Ulrich@feddit.orgtoSelfhosted@lemmy.worldEmail provider for home server alerts
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    2 days ago

    You conveniently skipped the part

    I didn’t skip anything. The solutions I listed support all of that, with the possible exception of running on old shit which…why is that even remotely relevant?

    you very much can not run mastodon server on a Commodore 64.

    You absolutely can. There’s an entire community dedicated to running Mastodon servers on old hardware.

    Email has been a thing since the 1970s and there’s a reason why it’s still going strong.

    Is it ignorant old farts refusing to embrace new technology?

    Things like XMPP has been around for a good while and there’s a reason why they’re not even close of overtaking email as a primary communication technology around.

    Because it came around after email and all the old farts were too committed to it to learn something new? Is it because tech oligarchs learned from their lessons and embraced, extended, exploited, and abandoned open standards? What is the reason? You tell me.

    email is still working just fine and majority of the hot stuff which is around right now has faded to the history.

    It doesn’t work “just fine”, it’s fucking awful. Outside of trying to host it, just using it is a nightmare. Trying to find any information is a nightmare because there’s no common communication thread, and the emails are chock full of unnecessary bloat, and everyone has a fucking signature that’s a mile long and full of giant images. You can’t send videos. There’s a bunch of tracking features built into it. It’s insecure. Like, the list goes on…


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    Because it’s universal, it works, it’s multi-platform, device agnostic and it’s simple to use user side. Nothing else available really fits that criteria.

    I already listed a handful of other platforms that check all those same things without being a pain in the ass to host, being sucky to use, or requiring approval from your ISP.

    XMPP could work for it, but nobody really uses it anymore and to be honest the standard is ugly as hell to implement.

    Uglier than email? Nah.

    it would again only be available from said app(unless you do use something like NTFY)

    Yes, NTFY is another example I already gave.

    which would generally be locked down to a device

    No it’s not.

    so if its already being stored for accounts, might as well use it for notifications

    It shouldn’t be used for accounts. That was my entire point. I host a dozen services and half of them no one else can use because the software mandates email verification, which I can’t use because my ISP doesn’t think I should be allowed to for some reason.



  • What other than email provides that?

    Matrix? For one?

    Browser notifications generally don’t work on mobile.

    …of course they do?

    if you’re not suggesting sending messages via IRC or XMPP (or matrix or…) which have their own problems.

    Among others. Email has much bigger problems.

    App notifications require that you have the thing which app is running to be available and online and they more often that not require some spesific device

    I have no idea what any of that means…

    Also I have not met an ISP which would block sending email via gmail/amazon/protonmail/whoever.

    Which makes no difference when self-hosting

    Which other protocol

    See above.

    you can read email even with Commodore 64

    I…don’t know what that’s supposed to mean. You want to argue that email is superior because it’s old? You can run a Mastodon server on a Commodore as well.

    There’s just no way for any other modern service to even try to compete with versatility with email.

    Yes? There are a hundred ways.

    Set up a old fire alarm bell, hook it up to your home automation, process incoming emails and if it’s severe enough turn the bell on.

    …why wouldn’t you just send the signal directly to the server?